Bad Night Out

What an arrogant punk! I witnessed the incident. Maybe you should "check" yourself and your buddy. Just as you say there should be a "check" on authority. You guys were a couple of drunk, self-entitled idiots. I hope you are prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Jerks!

A "Tea Party activist" trying to pay with Euros?

Cannot make up this up!

Cattleman, what did you see and how does it differ with the story here? Also, do you feel the police acted properly when beating and tasing the young man who was with Tevis? Did you give a statement to the arresting officers? Are you a co-worker of the bouncer or just someone who happened upon the scene? Finally, you say these guys were drunk but the police do not mention alcohol as being involved and no BAL test was given to either man after they were arrested. Would you be willing to testify to their obvious intoxication?

Too many bars, too many drunks, too many fights, too much of our tax dollars wasted. Rezone and limit bars just like the dispensaries. Where are the "red sweaters ?" Yep, at home, passed out on booze and prescription medication.

Tevis is a menace to society.

I watched this incident unfold. These two clowns were absolute buffoons. It was an absolute pleasure to watch the police subdue these two jerks. They thought they were so tough. Every blow from the police was necessary and deserved by these idiots. Grow up you two little boys.

Pritchett beat me to this one. If nothing else, Tevis should be opposed to the internationalist concept of the Euro.

Too much violence. One more reason I choose not to go downtown and spend my $$$. I liked it better in the days prior to S.B'.s pols selling out the locals so that the kiddies could go downtown and get drunk and raise hell.

Mr. Clausen
Any situation you find yourself in with Mr. Tevis is most likely to turn ugly. While NOT a fan of EOS specifically (in fact when I first heard this story I thought two Karmaic birds had been hit with one stone); learning the details only makes me think of Tevis with more disgust than before.

It sounds like excessive force was used by the cops. Multiple taser? Several strikes to the ribs?

Maybe these guys were drunk and obnoxious, but my own recent experience with SB cops leads me to not trust them one iota.

Local cops act as if they're above the law. At a minimum, they're rude and unhelpful. At worst, they're bullies who beat up or wrongfully arrest law abiding citizens on trumped up charges.

This is an awesome story! I almost spit out my coffee with laughter! Good job boys, thanks for making the news entertaining. The only thing better would be a Mel Gibson style racist loony tunes rant......

Those who would stand in the circle to throw stones at these young men should first take a look in the mirror. Justin Tevis is innocent until proven guilty, unlike certain other former city council candidates who were actually convicted of crimes or according to court records, stiffed their creditors by filing bankruptcy. I know of one losing city council candidate who has a carbon footprint twice the size of an average person and yet he claims to be an environmentalist. How can anyone demand that others pay for their health care when they have such a blatant disregard for their own health. At least Tevis is not a hypocrite. Tevis claimed he was concerned about over zealous police officers and this story seems to back him up. Do any of us really want to see citizens beaten and repeatedly tased on our public streets? Do some research and you will find this is all too common of an occurrence in Santa Barbara. I recall Tevis standing up for others he felt were treated unjustly by the Santa Barbara justice system. Tevis is a passionate lover of liberty and it is a shame that partisan politics cause people to find joy in the unfortunate circumstances of others.

these guys may be idiots, but so are the bouncers at EOS. I have heard a couple incidents just like this one from others experiencing the man-tality of the bouncer.

http://www.independent.com/news/2009/...

::: "I like personal responsibility, living free, taking the initiative, being able to compete, and being able to fail," [Tevis] said.
[...snip...]

::: "There's graffiti all over the place that goes un-prosecuted," he said. "But if you're not wearing your seat belt, they'll pull you over and charge you $100." As part of his anti-gang strategy, Tevis said parents should be held accountable for the misdeeds of their children, and that in lieu of community service, juvenile offenders should be forced to participate in sports activities.
[...snip...]

::: "That creates lotteries," [Tevis} objected, "of who gets in and who doesn't." As burly as he is, Tevis said he's been accosted by aggressive street people and supports tougher laws designed to "clean up downtown." Businesses have a right to operate without being harassed by the homeless, he said.

Where Tevis's politics tend to be tough and uncompromising, in person he comes across sweet and congenial.
[...snip...]

to Zevonfan: I was leaving Eos as it happened. I do not know if it was excessive force or not, so please enlighten me. One person was down on the ground with their hands clenched in front of them. If the proper procedure is to have the hands behind them to place handcuffs on, what is the proper way to do so? And if that person refuses to do so, what should be the proper procedure? Once again, I do not know if it was excessive force or not, but I do know I saw the person in question refusing to put his hands behind is back and did see the policeman use several methods to try and get the hands behind the back. Yes, I saw the taser being used and the policeman hitting the man´s back.

So once again I ask, what should be the proper procedure when a person refuses to comply?

I worked in an emergency locked psych unit for many years and actually taught classes in managing assaultive behavior. We NEVER hit or tased people, even when they were really violent or aggressive. We assigned a person to each limb to make sure the person could not injure anyone else or themselves. We restrained the person in this manner and when we had the person immobilized we would work as a team to place the person in full leather restraints to transport them. We always used the very least force necessary. Sometimes we worked with police when they would bring in patients in police custody and I was often disgusted by the way the police treated patients. We would have a person fully restrained and the police office would strike the patient in some sort of attempt to punish the patient for making the policeman's job difficult. It is difficult to fully explain how to restrain a person without using violence but I could demonstrate various techniques. Maybe you know someone who works in mental health who could vouch for the different approach used by mental health technicians as opposed to police officers. You say the man had his hands in front of him; did he appear to be a danger to anyone at that point? Maybe he was disoriented and confused after being attacked by the bouncers. It seems like the aggressiveness of the police did not serve to calm the man down.

"As part of his anti-gang strategy, Tevis said parents should be held accountable for the misdeeds of their children"

Thank you for sharing that Binky and I will add my $.02 worth. Tevis is out of touch on this matter. Indeed there are lots of gang-type folks raising children but when you have a society where parents are working two to three jobs, where kids are raised by the schools/afterschool programs which are not allowed to discipline kids, where gutter-culture influence is widespread in the media, it makes it clear that the parents are fighting a losing battle. (And I've heard but cannot verify that the Child Protective Services has parents scared of disciplining their children.)

By the way, I should not have written "my $.02 worth", that was ignorant. I should have written "My two Euros worth".

"Maybe you know someone who works in mental health who could vouch for the different approach used by mental health technicians as opposed to police officers. You say the man had his hands in front of him; did he appear to be a danger to anyone at that point?"
--Zevonfan

It seems to me a patient arriving in a mental health institution has already been in custody so everyone knows that person doesn't have a small weapon in their hand.

Out on the street while someone is being taken into custody, the cops have just gotten there, its dark, the situation is much less controlled, and nobody knows if there's anything in the person's hands or pockets.

That may explain the difference in technique.

Obviously, Tevis' boys are trolling this site and responding with pathetic "damage control" posts. You punks are easy to spot.

This was an emergency psych unit in a county hospital. Often the patients came to the ER seeking help and then became assaultive which would require them being restrained. This is one example of how a patient might be controlled by a dual effort from hospital personnel and police. Also, once admitted, our patients moved freely on the unit and would sometimes become explosive and violent. I am just making the point that there is a way to control violent behavior without getting violent back. There really are non-violent techniques that can be applied. We may just agree to disagree here. In any case I did not see any evidence that the man tased was being violent; only uncooperative when asked to submit to being handcuffed.

Yeah Tevis. Local boy doing what local boys do. As for Justinian go BACK to whatever town you are from clown.

The Howe family has lots of money up in the SYV. SBPD just made them more!

@Justinian you seem to be the troll. Your account was activated on July 15 , the day of your first comment. With all two of your comments on this subject. Oops!

805,Here is Justinians true aim: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpus_J...

To ZevonFan, who also is one of the red sweater crowd: Justin Tevis would happily throw rocks at anyone who not only disagreed with him, but wasn't the correct skin color. Furthermore Ms. Mender, I mean Zevon Fan, your flowery tribute to him was worthy of satire, which what it first appeared to be.
Tevis is a brainless failure of a thug and putting a red sweater on him isn't going to change that.